So, so many times whenever Lee got his teeth into something Mark is genius in is ability to change the subject while keeping it sliiiiightly along the same topic while sticking in the final word. I mean, an idiot economically, but a genius at spin.
I also like how all the examples Mark threw out there were the outworking of his own aims, where he blames capitalism for problems government regulation started. Like the BP oil spill—It’s not BP being some sort of superpower cigar smoking market force that lets them get away with a slap on the wrist for causing Chernobyl in the Gulf, the GOVERNMENT whom he naively trusts that has put a cap on how much damage they’ll be responsible for. Take away that cap, corporations would self regulate and not engage in such risky behavior knowing they could destroy their company drilling hastily in deep water.
Also Mark when will you understand that True Conservatives and Libertarians hate both the republicans and the democrats? They’re both for bigger government that needs a huge downsize.
this is the 2nd debate you guys both had where mark levine controlled the length on how much you could say. He keeps interrupting when you were making a very good point, so new ppl don’t know what it is and assume there is none
When banks are FDIC insured, they no longer compete on how safe deposit are, but on how much interest rate they pay. Mark Levine say, he will go and search which pay the highest dividend. Well the higher the dividend the higher the risk and as you move your deposit from safer to riskier bank because you’re chasing the higher dividend, you’re telling every bank in the industry that they make more money by taking more and more risk aka gambling
holy crap, no wonder everyone comenting on here is siding with the libertarian. mark is a horrible debater, if thats what hes actually doing rather than controlling the whole damn thing. i would not be surprised if this is the most views his show gets, simply due to lees youtube page that directed you here.
Damn, Mark let the man talk! Lee knows what he’s talking about. Stop interrupting him with your straw man arguments. You could learn something from him!
Doesn’t Mark know that Moody’s and S&P are basically granted monopoly privileges by the government? If they had to compete with other institutions, maybe they’d be more honest.
Mark Levine, i believe, like most liberals seem to be unable to understand risks and how they create order in a free market if they’re allowed to. Lee explained it over and over for him and I still don’t think he really understood. It might just be that mark isn’t to good with economics but it doesn’t help him that Lee really knows his stuff.
I would say Lee wins hands down but it would have been nice to see a real debate. Like one where your opponent doesn’t control the show and interrupt you all the time. Got to give them both credit for doing this debate though, thanks guys.
1) Social security and Medicare were NOT what got us out of the Great Depression.
2) Lack of Social Security and Medicare was NOT what got us into the Great Depression.
Contrary to what you may have been taught, government welfare is not a necessity.
Wally’s parents probably hate it, but they’ve been forced to pay into Social Security all their life; of course they’re gonna use it.
Enjoyed the show… I think Lee did a great job of keeping his cool and sticking to the facts. His compromise on FDIC insuring bank deposits for small investors was a mistake and Mark called him out on it. Otherwise Lee was very logical and made his points well.
“In normal times, we are told that the rich are rich only at the expense of everyone else. One man’s wealth is another man’s poverty. It’s a fixed pie, and one reason for human suffering is precisely the tendency of the rich to spend their filthy lucre on fripperies. They engage in conspicuous consumption that does nothing but feed their egos even as the world’s poor suffer.
Suddenly, the line has changed. Now it is the moral obligation of the rich to cough up in order to help the rest of us. Especially now that government stimulus has proven to be ineffective, the rich should make it their patriotic obligation to spend, spend, spend! To be sure, the left-leaning commentariat is not willing to go so far as to favor tax cuts for the rich. For that would put us “in an Alice in Wonderland world,” says Sam Pizzigati of the Institute for Policy Studies, in which we help the people we are supposed to hate.” - Lew Rockwell
July 12th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
All I see with Net Neutrality is that the Gov’t is fighting a bogeyman which doesn’t exist.
July 16th, 2010 at 7:38 pm
So, so many times whenever Lee got his teeth into something Mark is genius in is ability to change the subject while keeping it sliiiiightly along the same topic while sticking in the final word. I mean, an idiot economically, but a genius at spin.
I also like how all the examples Mark threw out there were the outworking of his own aims, where he blames capitalism for problems government regulation started. Like the BP oil spill—It’s not BP being some sort of superpower cigar smoking market force that lets them get away with a slap on the wrist for causing Chernobyl in the Gulf, the GOVERNMENT whom he naively trusts that has put a cap on how much damage they’ll be responsible for. Take away that cap, corporations would self regulate and not engage in such risky behavior knowing they could destroy their company drilling hastily in deep water.
Also Mark when will you understand that True Conservatives and Libertarians hate both the republicans and the democrats? They’re both for bigger government that needs a huge downsize.
July 16th, 2010 at 11:10 pm
Al Gore didn’t invent the internet, just a FYI.
July 17th, 2010 at 1:21 am
apple and goole ARE hoarding cash as well
July 17th, 2010 at 2:15 am
this is the 2nd debate you guys both had where mark levine controlled the length on how much you could say. He keeps interrupting when you were making a very good point, so new ppl don’t know what it is and assume there is none
When banks are FDIC insured, they no longer compete on how safe deposit are, but on how much interest rate they pay. Mark Levine say, he will go and search which pay the highest dividend. Well the higher the dividend the higher the risk and as you move your deposit from safer to riskier bank because you’re chasing the higher dividend, you’re telling every bank in the industry that they make more money by taking more and more risk aka gambling
July 17th, 2010 at 5:30 am
This is a good show. You two would make an awesome podcast.
July 17th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
holy crap, no wonder everyone comenting on here is siding with the libertarian. mark is a horrible debater, if thats what hes actually doing rather than controlling the whole damn thing. i would not be surprised if this is the most views his show gets, simply due to lees youtube page that directed you here.
July 17th, 2010 at 2:38 pm
Damn, Mark let the man talk! Lee knows what he’s talking about. Stop interrupting him with your straw man arguments. You could learn something from him!
July 17th, 2010 at 5:35 pm
Doesn’t Mark know that Moody’s and S&P are basically granted monopoly privileges by the government? If they had to compete with other institutions, maybe they’d be more honest.
July 17th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
Guy, I think most of Mark’s local fans watch him on Channel 10.
July 17th, 2010 at 8:33 pm
Mark Levine’s democrat talking points vs Lee Doren’s reason and logic.
Doren wins.
July 18th, 2010 at 3:46 am
Mark Levine, i believe, like most liberals seem to be unable to understand risks and how they create order in a free market if they’re allowed to. Lee explained it over and over for him and I still don’t think he really understood. It might just be that mark isn’t to good with economics but it doesn’t help him that Lee really knows his stuff.
I would say Lee wins hands down but it would have been nice to see a real debate. Like one where your opponent doesn’t control the show and interrupt you all the time. Got to give them both credit for doing this debate though, thanks guys.
July 18th, 2010 at 3:30 pm
Agree with Lee’s points 100%
July 18th, 2010 at 3:56 pm
Agree with Mark’s points 100%.
Ending social security and medicare, the way radical libertarians like Lee would do would bring us back to the worst times of the great depression.
wally, ask your parents and grandparents if they like their social security and medicare. I’ll bet they do!
July 18th, 2010 at 6:48 pm
@ProudLiberal;
Two things:
1) Social security and Medicare were NOT what got us out of the Great Depression.
2) Lack of Social Security and Medicare was NOT what got us into the Great Depression.
Contrary to what you may have been taught, government welfare is not a necessity.
Wally’s parents probably hate it, but they’ve been forced to pay into Social Security all their life; of course they’re gonna use it.
Lee Doren is right on this on, 100%.
July 20th, 2010 at 3:19 pm
Last time I checked, taking from the rich and giving to the poor is Robin Hood’s job…or Communism.
July 28th, 2010 at 3:29 am
Enjoyed the show… I think Lee did a great job of keeping his cool and sticking to the facts. His compromise on FDIC insuring bank deposits for small investors was a mistake and Mark called him out on it. Otherwise Lee was very logical and made his points well.
July 28th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
“In normal times, we are told that the rich are rich only at the expense of everyone else. One man’s wealth is another man’s poverty. It’s a fixed pie, and one reason for human suffering is precisely the tendency of the rich to spend their filthy lucre on fripperies. They engage in conspicuous consumption that does nothing but feed their egos even as the world’s poor suffer.
Suddenly, the line has changed. Now it is the moral obligation of the rich to cough up in order to help the rest of us. Especially now that government stimulus has proven to be ineffective, the rich should make it their patriotic obligation to spend, spend, spend! To be sure, the left-leaning commentariat is not willing to go so far as to favor tax cuts for the rich. For that would put us “in an Alice in Wonderland world,” says Sam Pizzigati of the Institute for Policy Studies, in which we help the people we are supposed to hate.” - Lew Rockwell